Peter Heine Nielsen vs. Emil Sutovsky
Zitat von Conrad Schormann am 26. Januar 2023, 12:35 UhrRegelmäßig prallen der Coach von Magnus Carlsen und der Geschäftsführer der FIDE via Twitter aufeinander. Ihren Streits lassen sich wunderbar die politischen, auch die sportlichen Konfliktlinieren im Schach entnehmen. Darum (ohne Anspruch auf Vollständigkeit) seien die Gefechte Nielsen vs. Sutovsky ab sofort an dieser Stelle dokumentiert.
https://twitter.com/EmilSutovsky/status/1615946354374721537
Regelmäßig prallen der Coach von Magnus Carlsen und der Geschäftsführer der FIDE via Twitter aufeinander. Ihren Streits lassen sich wunderbar die politischen, auch die sportlichen Konfliktlinieren im Schach entnehmen. Darum (ohne Anspruch auf Vollständigkeit) seien die Gefechte Nielsen vs. Sutovsky ab sofort an dieser Stelle dokumentiert.
Another lie into your rich collection.
Artem paid 0.
Only if you play World Championship events, you have to pay in order to represent new federation at once, and not wait for 2 years since the last time you played it.
Besides, you may switch to FIDE and play free at once.
— Emilchess (@EmilSutovsky) January 19, 2023
Zitat von Conrad Schormann am 26. Januar 2023, 12:39 UhrDieser Strang berührt den Wechsel von Dinara Wagner zum deutschen Verband. Als Elisabeth Pähtz sich einklinkte und die ihrer Meinung nach Langsamkeit deutscher Offizieller erwähnte, rief das DSB-Sportdirektor Kevin Högy auf den Plan.
https://twitter.com/EmilSutovsky/status/1615991749385809920
https://twitter.com/lisiko85/status/1616090259976249344
https://twitter.com/KevinHoegy/status/1616146052180070400
https://twitter.com/EmilSutovsky/status/1616016380465135616
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1616035021386563584
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1616034157020299264
Dieser Strang berührt den Wechsel von Dinara Wagner zum deutschen Verband. Als Elisabeth Pähtz sich einklinkte und die ihrer Meinung nach Langsamkeit deutscher Offizieller erwähnte, rief das DSB-Sportdirektor Kevin Högy auf den Plan.
Passing from outright lies to tweaking. Respect. What you failed to mention, that Alexandra applied for a change way before the war started. Already in 2021 they raised it. And yes, switched peacefully to Poland. With the fees paid according to the rules.
— Emilchess (@EmilSutovsky) January 19, 2023
Dinara request the change before the war started as she married a German and knew her life would be here. German chess officials were just not working too quickly that’s why there was a general delay. So I can assure you that in her case it was not connected at all.
— Elisabeth (@lisiko85) January 19, 2023
The delay was because of the Russian Chess Fed. On March 13 we received the letter of no objection from Mr. Gluhovsky. But because Mr. Filatov & Mr. A. Tkachiev did not trust us to pay the compensation fee, they delayed the fed change until FIDE automatically makes the fed change pic.twitter.com/zp0cEqtMSB
— Kevin Högy (@KevinHoegy) January 19, 2023
Total hypocrisy. The whole world traded with Russia in 2014-2022. Every major brand. Millions of people traveled to visit. Sportsmen (including both of your bosses) participated in official or commercial events. And you blame FIDE for following general regulations. Pathetic.
— Emilchess (@EmilSutovsky) January 19, 2023
Yes, the West tried givng Russia a chance. Proportionally sanctioned them, but kept trading. Liberals like Dvorkovich and his boss Medvedev fought hard convincing the West that was a good strategy.
— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 19, 2023
My bosses played official champiuonships put there by FIDE. One of my bosses went to Luhansk and Donetsk to support Ukraine in 2021.
Your boss lied to western media about Russian shellings of Ukraine , Litvinenko etc. Skolkovo and weapons.
Can you get some sense of proportions?— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 19, 2023
Zitat von Conrad Schormann am 26. Januar 2023, 12:45 Uhr200.000 Euro Unterstützung für offene Turniere weltweit ist ja sehr schön. Gemessen allerdings an den rapide steigenden Entlohnungen für FIDE-Mitarbeiter...
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1617616459802476545
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1617625087053811712
200.000 Euro Unterstützung für offene Turniere weltweit ist ja sehr schön. Gemessen allerdings an den rapide steigenden Entlohnungen für FIDE-Mitarbeiter...
FIDE never had so many employees and Presidentials advisors as we have now.
And we keep adding more and more.
From 580.000 Euro in salaries to 1.000.000 in 2023 for Staff.
Sure we had to cancel the FIDE Grand Prix..... https://t.co/v95yTDe71t— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 23, 2023
@EmilSutovsky Does this actually feel reasonable to you?
Salaries up from 560.000 to 1.430.000 for FIDE staff, while at the same time players, like in this blogpost, complains about being able to make a living?— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 23, 2023
Zitat von Conrad Schormann am 26. Januar 2023, 12:47 UhrSchafft die FIDE viele neue Turniere - oder eher nicht?
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1617602947386572801
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1617608664118095872
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1617648837384081419
Schafft die FIDE viele neue Turniere - oder eher nicht?
Grand Swiss was Isle of Mans, Chess 960 happened before too.
But you did cut the FIDE Grand Prix though.— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 23, 2023
As I explained to you before, lots of players lost their starting money in Isle of Mans. Conditions became worse from a player perspective, but perhaps not from a FIDE officials. As I recall you had the contract giving 500 Dollars for a players expenses, but 5.000 for your own..
— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 23, 2023
Dear Emil, as I always reply to your accusations, perhaps so will you?
You have been continiously lying about Dvorkovich ties to Russian weapons industry, his support for denazification in Ukraine.
And mislead the chess-world on IOC´s position towards Russian atlethes.— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 23, 2023
Zitat von Conrad Schormann am 26. Januar 2023, 12:50 UhrÜber den WM-Gastgeber Kasachstan und WM-Sponsor Timur Turlov:
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1618520861342060544
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1618535510120751107
To be continued...
Über den WM-Gastgeber Kasachstan und WM-Sponsor Timur Turlov:
Do not mix chess and politics @FIDE_chess says.
Timur Turlov, billionaire Oligarch, recently elected head of the Kazakh chess federation.
Do we honestly believe this is not political, but putting on a t-shirt is? pic.twitter.com/8FwQc0jJ3n— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 26, 2023
Dear @FIDE_chess C.E.O. @EmilSutovsky
Recent article from Bloomberg: Has FIDE checked up on this?
It would be reasonable to comment on articles like this, on that Turlov is sanctioned personally by Ukraine.
On the Sberbank deal etc. https://t.co/raerN8Yr5k— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 26, 2023
To be continued...
Zitat von Conrad Schormann am 30. Januar 2023, 15:24 Uhr"Neutrale" Sportler gebe es nicht, weil ihr Regime sportliche Erfolge immer propagandistisch ausschlachten werden. Diese Vorlage von Garry Kasparow führte zu einer Debatte zwischen unseren Diskutanten, in der es auch ums anstehende WM-Match und den daran beteiligten Russen ging:
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1619438985667051520
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1619449807457914880
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1619452437236191233
"Neutrale" Sportler gebe es nicht, weil ihr Regime sportliche Erfolge immer propagandistisch ausschlachten werden. Diese Vorlage von Garry Kasparow führte zu einer Debatte zwischen unseren Diskutanten, in der es auch ums anstehende WM-Match und den daran beteiligten Russen ging:
Kasparov puts the finger at the weak spot.
If atlethes, or chess-players, are unable or unwilling to disavow Putins dictatorship , to speak cleardy against genocide, to strongly distance themselves from war-criminals.
They become a platform for propaganda of a genocidal state. https://t.co/O8UcLnoDqJ— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 28, 2023
Can FIDE guarantee that Nepomniachtchi will not be used by the Kremlin for propaganda?
Can FIDE ensure he will get funds from the Russian state?
Can FIDE ensure he will be able to speak freely, e.g. disavowing war-criminals like Putin, Shoigu?
— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 28, 2023
I strongly disagree that it is negligble.
Why should Russian TV be allowed to show news of a Russian player playing a world-Championship match at the same time as a genocidal war is raging?
It creates the image Russia is still welcomed in the world.— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 28, 2023
Zitat von Conrad Schormann am 30. Januar 2023, 15:28 UhrAm 1. Februar beginnt in München der Grand Prix. Zwei russische Spielerinnen reisen quasi direkt vom Karjakin-Z-Propagandaturnier an. Stoff für einer neuerliche Debatte:
https://twitter.com/ninkibah/status/1619086347242717186
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1619090657645314056
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1619094420124749825
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1619097228974645249
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1619101363052617729
Am 1. Februar beginnt in München der Grand Prix. Zwei russische Spielerinnen reisen quasi direkt vom Karjakin-Z-Propagandaturnier an. Stoff für einer neuerliche Debatte:
That's a fair question but it's good to see companies such as Krulich Immobilien sponsoring events. More of them please.
— Jonathan O'Connor (@ninkibah) January 27, 2023
I certainly do. I condemn them for playing in Moscow. For helping Russia show the world that they are not isolated from sport.
And I have repeadetly recommended that FIDE take actions.
Why have Karjakin not been taking to the Ethics Committee for supporting the Wagner-group?— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 27, 2023
I strongly condemn Radjabov, Vallejo and Assabayeva.
And I several times recommended FIDE to take actions against the tournaments in Moscow.
What I mentioned was that FIDE allows players in their Grand Prix, who also plays in Moscow. You shouldnt.— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 27, 2023
I am sure it is possible legally, it is a matter of choice, of will.
I mentioned those players as they are part of the FIDE female Grand Prix in question.
And I am sure the Russian Chess Federation could easily be banned legally too. War-criminals in leading positions.— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 27, 2023
Yes I care about players. Russian players should not be forced to repesent criminals. I want a Russian Chess Federation with zero Kremlin ties. Where war-criminals has no place. Where Putin is not portrayed in greetings. And I think FIDE has a moral obligation to ensure that.
— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) January 27, 2023
Zitat von Conrad Schormann am 15. März 2023, 9:06 UhrUnd nun wurde einer der Russen Europameister, die sich in aller Deutlichkeit zu Putins Überfall auf die Ukrainer geäußert haben. Anlass für unsere Diskutanten, das "Ausschließen oder nicht"-Thema neu anzugehen.
https://twitter.com/EmilSutovsky/status/1635602338441318400
https://twitter.com/EmilSutovsky/status/1635610613731799043
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1635612376245452800
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1635645673516195841
Und nun wurde einer der Russen Europameister, die sich in aller Deutlichkeit zu Putins Überfall auf die Ukrainer geäußert haben. Anlass für unsere Diskutanten, das "Ausschließen oder nicht"-Thema neu anzugehen.
And you demand to ban all Russians. Sarana is a great guy, but even though he left Russia long ago, he did not (could not?) switch to another federation. Now, how many good guys are unable/not willing to leave for family or other reasons? FIDE's policy is much more adequate.
— Emilchess (@EmilSutovsky) March 14, 2023
Yeah, now ban Sarana and dozen of others from the World Cup? Right? Or it is not prestigious enough? And Champion of Europe is not?
And don't change the topic, widening the scope. I talk about individual players. Whom you just want to throw under the train for ephemeral effect.
— Emilchess (@EmilSutovsky) March 14, 2023
We could compromise and care about Russian players who never posed with Putin or received Oligarch money?
Removal of officials with ties to Kremlin?
Full stop to sponsor-ship with connections to Oligarchs and Gazprom?
Expel the CFR due to War-criminals in their board?— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) March 14, 2023
It was also wrong before Feb. 24.
But even if only debating after, how have you dealt with Dvorkovich praising Russian soldiers and talking of a world free of Nazis?
What has your reacting been to CFR having Peskov, Shoigu and Timchenko in their board?— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) March 14, 2023
Zitat von Conrad Schormann am 15. März 2023, 9:11 UhrVon Sutovskys Insistieren, wie quicklebendig klassisches Schach sein, landen unsere Diskutanten ganz schnell beim WM-Sponsor, der unter ukrainischen Sanktionen steht.
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1635193568657809409
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1635195694926696448
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1635198550236884992
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1635203339561603072
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1635211164065107968
Von Sutovskys Insistieren, wie quicklebendig klassisches Schach sein, landen unsere Diskutanten ganz schnell beim WM-Sponsor, der unter ukrainischen Sanktionen steht.
If classical chess is doing well, why does FIDE have to get sponsorship from sanctioned individuals and companies?
— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) March 13, 2023
No it is relevant here. You portray classical as doing well, I disagree.
It is rapid and online-chess that is booming. They bring in new money to chess. They create new events.
They do not need to go to sanctioned individuals.— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) March 13, 2023
WC match is Russian Oligarch money, from sanctioned entities.
Wijk is not exactly a boom. It is a long tradition.
You keep pushing your false narrative.
The chess boom is there, but not due to classical or FIDE.— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) March 13, 2023
I feel sure I know more than you.
What is your opinion on the Turlov deal with Sberbank ?https://t.co/5QrzxaYaMQ— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) March 13, 2023
That is sportswashing from your side, trying to put Turlov and Tata Steel in the same sentence.
I am asking you specifically about the Turlov dealings with Sberbank. You claimed to be an expert, as FIDE obviously research their sponsors before making agreements.
— Peter Heine Nielsen (@PHChess) March 13, 2023
Zitat von Conrad Schormann am 15. März 2023, 9:15 Uhr...und bei der Gelegenheit kam heraus, dass die FIDE für das WM-Match auch ein Zwei-Millionen-Angebot aus Argentinien hatte:
https://twitter.com/EmilSutovsky/status/1635199598208897024
https://twitter.com/EmilSutovsky/status/1635202805396045825
https://twitter.com/EmilSutovsky/status/1635211369091043328
https://twitter.com/alexholowczak/status/1635213392230379522
https://twitter.com/alexholowczak/status/1635218550158954496
https://twitter.com/alexholowczak/status/1635220752818647041
...und bei der Gelegenheit kam heraus, dass die FIDE für das WM-Match auch ein Zwei-Millionen-Angebot aus Argentinien hatte:
As usual you don't know your history. The Match in Baguio was financed by the dictator Marcos - the average Pinoy citizen would live on 1.5 dollars a day, and he would spend millions. BTW, several top players cut relations with Euwe - solid fact - with all my respect to him.
— Emilchess (@EmilSutovsky) March 13, 2023
That's not a real choice. You have 100K from one of potential hosts and 1.2M from the highest bidder. We had a choice - with both Argentina and Kazakhstan propose 2M Euro prize fund.
And stop misleading people. International sanctions and Ukrainian list is a very different thing.— Emilchess (@EmilSutovsky) March 13, 2023
Yes. Official letter, signed by the Governor providing guarantees - presented at the FIDE Council.
— Emilchess (@EmilSutovsky) March 13, 2023
If it was a decision taken by FIDE Council, then I'm not sure how Emil can answer that - he is not on FIDE Council.
— Alex Holowczak (@alexholowczak) March 13, 2023
Depends. I think Emil answers things on here that FIDE Council should really answer for, but he ends up answering because they aren't here to answer themselves. Then he ends up as the public punchbag. I realise this is a vicious circle - you ask him because you know he'll answer.
— Alex Holowczak (@alexholowczak) March 13, 2023
Perhaps, but it's also reasonable for him to say, "I don't know why they voted for Kazakhstan, you'll have to ask Council that." Which is why I think they should answer the question.
— Alex Holowczak (@alexholowczak) March 13, 2023